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DORIN a spus:
... celalalt este un vagon clasic de marfa - european.

celalalt ar vrea sa fie un vagon de tip "E" al cailor ferate Olandeze "NS" dar de fapt este un vagon fantezist deoarece vagonul real arata altfel.
Cel rosu nici nu poate fii discutat.
Nicu
 
@CFRmarfa

si care e problema? omului i-i plac asa cum sint. daca tie nu-ti convine aspectul lor, lasa-i pe ceilalti sa se bucure de ele.
si in legatura cu vagonul etajat cfr. cred ca ar trebui sa mai treci prin rominia si sa te urci pe podul grant ca sa le vezi ceva mai bine acoperisurile. unele sint gri, altele albastre 'vopsite cu mopul'. si toate au sobolanul cfr pe ele.

toate cele bune
 
CFRmarfa a spus:
Cel rosu nici nu poate fii discutat.
Cel rosu este modelul unui vagon pentru transportul de minereu, de pe la inceputul secolului XX.
N-o fi reprezentarea perfecta dar ooops! Na, ca poate fi discutat! :p
http://trains.mtnaircomputer.net/old-site/graphichtml/up/up26555.html
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=22632
http://www.lsrm.org/Education/freights.asp
http://www.greatnorthernempire.net/index2.htm?GNEPreservedGNFreightCars_Orecars.htm
 
Exact asta vroiam sa zic si eu!
La urma urmei, ce conteaza mai mult? Placerea detinatorului de a-l "modela" sau perfectiunea intrinseca a modelului?
Mie imi e greu sa raspund la intrebarea asta... pentru ca uneori un model ieftin si grosolan se transforma intr-o bijuterie modelata dupa placerea modelistului.
Si atunci valoreaza mult mai mult decit un model fabricat 100% corect. Eh, deja asta e filosofie, nu modelism...
 
Eu zic "nu este filozofie" ci realitate

daca cei ce stiu ar pune umarul sa ne ajute si sa ne invete cum trebuie facut ar fi o treba excelenta si atunci am trece de la "filozofie" la realitate

daca ma uit pe forum sunt multi care modifica cu rezultate si rezultate si cred ca asta conteaza cel mai mult: incerca sa imbunatateasca un model simplificat, muncesc adica fac MODELISM si nu vor sa se transforme in colectionari sau cum le zic modelistii de machete statice "Kitcolector"
 
lok a spus:
@CFRmarfa

si care e problema? omului i-i plac asa cum sint. daca tie nu-ti convine aspectul lor, lasa-i pe ceilalti sa se bucure de ele.
si in legatura cu vagonul etajat cfr. cred ca ar trebui sa mai treci prin rominia si sa te urci pe podul grant ca sa le vezi ceva mai bine acoperisurile. unele sint gri, altele albastre 'vopsite cu mopul'. si toate au sobolanul cfr pe ele.

toate cele bune

Nu e nici o problema, fiecare este liber si decide pentru el insusi ce-i place sau ce-l bucura sau nu dar asta nu cred ca inseamna sa bagi capul in nisip si te ascunzi de un adevar.

Iar in legatura cu podul Grant acolo nu prea stationeaza etajatele, as prefera urmatorul pod pietonal. In rest nu stiu ce rost are sa-mi zici ca toate au sobolanul pe ele...
Lucian a spus:
CFRmarfa a spus:
Cel rosu nici nu poate fii discutat.
Cel rosu este modelul unui vagon pentru transportul de minereu, de pe la inceputul secolului XX.
N-o fi reprezentarea perfecta dar ooops! Na, ca poate fi discutat! :p
http://trains.mtnaircomputer.net/old-site/graphichtml/up/up26555.html
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=22632
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GNEPreservedGNFreightCars_Orecars.htm

Eh daca pozele astea indica acuratetea modelului de transport de minereu atunci afla ca vagonul Olandez din dreapta este mult mai apropiat de original. :roll:
Nicu
 
Iar in legatura cu podul Grant acolo nu prea stationeaza etajatele
aici te contrazic ....cam odata la 3 zile trec pe grant si sunt cel putin 3-4 etajate de vazut.
saptamana trecuta erau cam 20
 
Postez si eu o poza cu 2 dintre vagoanele mele dintr-un startset scara OO :
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Salut !

<r>Nu stiu daca este bine sa postez aci ultimele achizitii la N,daca nu e ok rog pe Rally sa mute unde trebuie.Multumesc anticipat ! <E>:razz:</E> <br/>
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Prezentarile:<br/>
-macaze Peco Streamline-am 6 buc,dintre care unul in Y.<br/>
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-Macaze si intersectie Arnold<br/>
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-Vagoane cisterna :<br/>
---- Minitrix:<br/>
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----Arnold:<br/>
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----Roco:<br/>
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-Containere Roco:<br/>
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-Un etajat de la Piko;este in stare buna ,exceptia fiind osiile( sunt jalnice):<br/>
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-Un canton de la Kibry asamblat by me<br/>
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-O gara mai veche de la Faller<br/>
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-Garnitura de vagoane Minitrix epoca 2-3 ???<br/>
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Oare la aceste vagoane se potriveste Br 89 al meu?<br/>
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-Vagon cu containere de la Rowa-este super realizat<br/>
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-2 Vagoane Roco de transport greu cu un tanc Leopard si un Tab Puma ???<br/>
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-Vagon de posta al DB- Arnold<br/>
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-Vagon restaurant al DB-Roco<br/>
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-Vagon de calatori al DB-Roco<br/>
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-Vagoane Fleischmann de marfa<br/>
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-Personal de tren al DB-de la Preiser<br/>
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-Cativa brazi de la Noch<br/>
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Momentan cam atat <E>:)</E>; pentru orice fel de comentarii,poze suplimentare va stau la dispozitie.<E>:)</E></r>
 
Salut !

<r>....si vagoanele CFR Marfa de la Klein Modellbahn:<br/>
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Mie mi se par ok,au si un pic de weathering,cuplele hook is altfel de cum le stim,mi se par cam firave... In rest, spuneti si voi ce opinii aveti.....</r>
 
In legatura cu vagonul CFR de la Klein Modellbahn, si eu am cumparat acest vagon. Ca si realizare este OK, tampografia este buna. Eu personal nu folosesc cuple standard si le schimb cu close coupling de la Roco.
 
Superbe noile tale achizitii 8)
Bun venit in rindul detinatorilor de garnituri Orient Expres 8)
Poate poti spune cite ceva despre vagoanele ep.II daca se poate .Poate o poza cu placuta destinatiei ,traseul pe care circula :?: